But a setuid xterm with a few symlinks might well do the job to open the doors of paradise. (X11R5 before pl25) Then why bother trying to do such a foolish stuff as using a core...a log is enough.... --KSA -- Karim Saouli Math Department of the System administrator Swiss Fed. Inst. of Tech (ETHZ) Room: HG G 14.2 S-Mail: HG G 14.2 Email: saouli@math.ethz.ch ETH Zentrum Phone: ++41-1-632-2230 CH-8092 Zurich FAX : ++41-1-252-3401